Kale in Zone 8a & 8b
Brassica oleracea
Yes, kale grows in zones 8a and 8b. Start seeds indoors Feb 11–Feb 18 and plant out Mar 4–Mar 11. For a fall crop, plant out Aug 28–Sep 11.
When to plant kale in zone 8b
Zones 8a and 8b share the same average frost dates, so this page covers both.
Method: Either: Start indoors for an earlier harvest, or direct-sow outside for less fuss. Either works.
| Window | Spring window |
|---|---|
| Start indoors | Feb 11–Feb 18 |
| Direct sow / transplant outside | Mar 4–Mar 11 |
| Estimated harvest | May 3–May 10 (~60 days after planting) |
| Window | Fall window |
|---|---|
| Start indoors | Not typically started indoors |
| Direct sow / transplant outside | Aug 28–Sep 11 |
| Estimated harvest | Oct 27–Nov 10 (~60 days after planting) |
Spacing: 1 per square foot (square-foot-gardening spacing). Mature height: 1-2 ft.
Fall window: the last sowing date is the average first frost minus days to maturity, the method in Purdue Extension's fall garden guide, which lists kale for late-summer planting.
Plant alongside it in zone 8b
These go outside within two weeks of kale in zone 8b, so one planting day can cover them.
- RadishFeb 25–Mar 4
- CarrotMar 4–Mar 11
- CabbageMar 11–Mar 18
- LettuceMar 11–Mar 18
- BeetMar 4–Mar 11
- Broccoli Rabe (Raab)Mar 4–Mar 11
Kale is about as low-maintenance as vegetables get, and one of the few that improves with cold, a hard frost sweetens the leaves rather than ruining them. It can be started indoors or direct-seeded, and either way it tends to outlast most other greens into late fall.
How kale fits zone 8's season
Zone 8b's frost-free window runs about 230 days, from March 25 to November 10. Kale needs about 60 days from sowing to first harvest.
Kale planting windows in every zone
Zone 8b is highlighted. Useful for comparing against a neighbouring zone, or for a garden somewhere else.
| Zone | Start indoors | Sow or plant out | Harvest |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2a & 2b | Apr 8–Apr 15 | Apr 29–May 6 | Jun 28–Jul 5 |
| 3a & 3b | Apr 18–Apr 25 | May 9–May 16 | Jul 8–Jul 15 |
| 4a & 4bSpring window | Apr 3–Apr 10 | Apr 24–May 1 | Jun 23–Jun 30 |
| Fall window | Not usually | Jul 8–Jul 22 | Sep 6–Sep 20 |
| 5a & 5bSpring window | Mar 29–Apr 5 | Apr 19–Apr 26 | Jun 18–Jun 25 |
| Fall window | Not usually | Jul 23–Aug 6 | Sep 21–Oct 5 |
| 6a & 6bSpring window | Mar 14–Mar 21 | Apr 4–Apr 11 | Jun 3–Jun 10 |
| Fall window | Not usually | Aug 2–Aug 16 | Oct 1–Oct 15 |
| 7a & 7bSpring window | Feb 27–Mar 6 | Mar 20–Mar 27 | May 19–May 26 |
| Fall window | Not usually | Aug 12–Aug 26 | Oct 11–Oct 25 |
| 8a & 8bSpring window (your zone) | Feb 11–Feb 18 | Mar 4–Mar 11 | May 3–May 10 |
| Fall window | Not usually | Aug 28–Sep 11 | Oct 27–Nov 10 |
| 9a & 9bSpring window | Jan 4–Jan 11 | Jan 25–Feb 1 | Mar 26–Apr 2 |
| Fall window | Not usually | Sep 22–Oct 6 | Nov 21–Dec 5 |
| 10a & 10bFall window | Aug–Dec | Sep–Jan | ~60 days after transplanting |
Harvest dates are about 60 days after the sow or plant-out date, not after starting seeds indoors.
Zone 2 sows before zone 3 here, which looks wrong and is not. USDA zones rank winter cold, not season length, and zone 2 is mostly interior Alaska, where hard winters come with warm summers. More on what a zone measures.
Good companions
- Onion: Onion scent is reputed to confuse cabbage moths that target kale. The research behind this is real but garlic-specific (field trials intercropping garlic with cabbage reduced diamondback moth damage): onion hasn't been tested the same way, so treat the onion version as a reasonable extrapolation, not a directly measured result.
Where to buy kale seeds
Botanical Interests · True Leaf Market · Burpee · High Mowing Organic Seeds (each supplier's kale seeds)
Varieties we recommend, and where to get them:
- Red Russian: Cornell's Vegetable Varieties for Gardeners database has it as the most-reviewed kale in their system at 33 reviews and a 4.4-star rating, with oak-shaped, gray-green leaves and deep-purple veins that are noticeably more tender than curly types like Winterbor. Buy: Botanical Interests · True Leaf Market · Burpee · High Mowing Organic Seeds Full notes
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