Black-Eyed Susan in Zone 8a & 8b
Rudbeckia hirta
Yes, black-eyed Susan grows in zones 8a and 8b. Start seeds indoors Feb 4–Feb 11 and plant out Mar 4–Mar 11.
When to plant black-eyed Susan in zone 8b
Zones 8a and 8b share the same average frost dates, so this page covers both.
Method: Either: Start indoors for an earlier harvest, or direct-sow outside for less fuss. Either works.
| Start indoors | Feb 4–Feb 11 |
|---|---|
| Direct sow / transplant outside | Mar 4–Mar 11 |
| Estimated bloom | May 13–May 20 (~70 days after planting) |
Spacing: 1 per square foot (square-foot-gardening spacing). Mature height: 2-3 ft.
Plant alongside it in zone 8b
These go outside within two weeks of black-eyed Susan in zone 8b, so one planting day can cover them.
- Clarkia (Farewell-to-Spring)Mar 4–Mar 11
- Cynoglossum (Chinese Forget-Me-Not)Mar 4–Mar 11
- Phacelia (Lacy Phacelia)Mar 4–Mar 11
- Purple ConeflowerMar 4–Mar 11
- Saponaria (Soapwort)Mar 4–Mar 11
- Shasta DaisyMar 4–Mar 11
Black-eyed Susan is one of the few flowers that rewards low effort in a way that feels almost unfair. Sow it, keep it in the sun, ignore it. It germinates readily, flowers in its first summer, and carries on through drought and heat that has the rest of the border sulking, standing 2 to 3 feet tall with the classic golden-yellow daisy petals ringing a raised, dark brown-black center.
How black-eyed Susan fits zone 8's season
Zone 8b's frost-free window runs about 230 days, from March 25 to November 10. Black-eyed Susan needs about 70 days from sowing to first bloom.
Black-Eyed Susan planting windows in every zone
Zone 8b is highlighted. Useful for comparing against a neighbouring zone, or for a garden somewhere else.
| Zone | Start indoors | Sow or plant out | Bloom |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2a & 2b | Apr 1–Apr 8 | Apr 29–May 6 | Jul 8–Jul 15 |
| 3a & 3b | Apr 11–Apr 18 | May 9–May 16 | Jul 18–Jul 25 |
| 4a & 4b | Mar 27–Apr 3 | Apr 24–May 1 | Jul 3–Jul 10 |
| 5a & 5b | Mar 22–Mar 29 | Apr 19–Apr 26 | Jun 28–Jul 5 |
| 6a & 6b | Mar 7–Mar 14 | Apr 4–Apr 11 | Jun 13–Jun 20 |
| 7a & 7b | Feb 20–Feb 27 | Mar 20–Mar 27 | May 29–Jun 5 |
| 8a & 8b (your zone) | Feb 4–Feb 11 | Mar 4–Mar 11 | May 13–May 20 |
| 9a & 9b | Dec 28–Jan 4 | Jan 25–Feb 1 | Apr 5–Apr 12 |
| 10a & 10bFall window | Aug–Jan | Oct–Mar | ~70 days after transplanting |
| 11a & 11b | Nov 13–Nov 20 | Dec 11–Dec 18 | Feb 19–Feb 26 |
Bloom dates are about 70 days after the sow or plant-out date, not after starting seeds indoors.
Zone 2 sows before zone 3 here, which looks wrong and is not. USDA zones rank winter cold, not season length, and zone 2 is mostly interior Alaska, where hard winters come with warm summers. More on what a zone measures.
Good companions
No well-established companions for black-eyed Susan.
Where to buy black-eyed Susan seeds
Botanical Interests (each supplier's black-eyed Susan seeds)
Varieties we recommend, and where to get them:
- 'Indian Summer': Enormous flowers, six to nine inches across, among the largest of any Rudbeckia. Buy: Botanical Interests Full notes
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Growing Black-Eyed Susan in USDA zone 8b: when to start seeds indoors, when to direct-sow, and when to expect a bloom.
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